Drug legalization?

Kizzume · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject:

I understand. So you think those things SHOULD be made illegal?

Wow--I don't like that route, but at least it's consistent. Yes, if that was the route, it would have to be one at a time, you're absolutely right.

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Well I think if our primary value is quality of life with human safety then we would work on outlawing those things.

Kizzume · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject:

What are steps that can be taken to get to that point?

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Globalization is the only answer. We have to unify as a race to fight this problem.

Kizzume · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject:

How do we take care of the issue of violent differences in beliefs across the globe, particularly the ones who are in the middle of the modern equivalent to the Spanish Inquisition (the islamic countries)?

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Well I didn't say that it was feesable today. I think it's going to take lots and lots of time and talking.

Kizzume · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject:

Gotcha. I understand now.

In the meantime, what should we do? How can we, at the very least, reduce the amount of money that gets wasted on the war on drugs?

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Kizzume · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject:

That's a side that I have to speak of hypothetically/like-a-devil's-advocate because I believe in legalization. Sad

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Understood. But you can see that a person who is opposed to legalization would support the war on drugs yes?

Kizzume · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject:

Yes. But the war on drugs isn't working, right now it's a waste of money because it costs too much and doesn't stop the problem. Right now it's more like a witch hunt--it's handled as a criminal offense, not something medical. Right now it turns millions of people into criminals because of something they put into their own bodies.

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Kizzume · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject:

Drugs don't cause crime. Sorry. Drugs only cause crime when the people can't afford to buy them because they're so expensive because they're illegal.

Drugs cause medical issues--correct. Drugs CAN cause death. Yes. But if they were legalized and taxed, the taxes from those can go into rehabilitation programs. Throwing people in jail for something that's more of a medical issue is silly. We can't afford it--we at the very least need to take a different approach to the issue.

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Kizzume · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject:

Sugar is bad. Caffeine is bad. Cars without ABS are bad. There are lots of things that are bad out there. Isn't part of freedom the freedom to be able to make poor decisions, or is freedom the choice between doing absolute designated things and using all products the way they were designed (like the USA that Giuliani wants--freedom is following authority)? Is freedom the ability to do actions listed on a checklist? This action is government approved and this one is not--if you do something that isn't government approved, it's time to rot in jail?

People will do bad things whether drugs are involved or not.

Pharmaceutical drugs kill people every day. Should doctors be disallowed to prescribe them? Sometimes doctors misprescribe something and the person ends up doing bad things. Why not make those things illegal too?

I just don't buy the idea that we should regulate everyone's behaviors.

I really don't understand how you can take this stance on drugs yet be against banning cigarettes in public places. I don't understand. Those two concepts seem to clash.

People do bad things when they can't get their cigarettes.