Drug legalization?

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Actually alcohol has the majority of those properties. But lets go back to the standard... You are applying a willy nilly standard that YOU like. Right. I mean stains? Come on... We don't pass laws based on stains. We pass laws based on health impact or the like.

Kizzume · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject:

What other thing that people do in public causes stains, makes people stink BAD just from being around it for literally 5 seconds, makes things stink for 10 years if they're not washable or unless they can get a nice bleach soak but if it's enough that it's stained the smell will NEVER come out--can you think of anything else that people do indoors that has those properties? Anything at all?

I sure can't.

How about something that can destroy people's singing voices just from being in the same room? Anything? I can't.

If you want to put crap in your body, do it--just don't make ME breath it. If I want to have alcohol, I shouldn't have to breath that crap to get it--and yes, I'm still complaining about the smell/stains aspect. If EVERY bar out there burned sage inside, I'd be complaining the same way. I guess that's a really bad example, because nobody is addicted to sage.

Kizzume · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject:

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Alcohol smells. Alcohol can cause stains without direct contact. Alcohol diffusing can impact the operations of a cellular phone. So yes... Alcohol has those properties.

Kizzume · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject:

Alcohol smells--yes, but simply being around alcohol doesn't make you smell like alcohol unless it's being spilled on you, especially not in a matter of seconds. Cigarettes it's almost instantaneous if you've walked into a smoky room. That's it--just opening the doors to a smoky bar and that WHOOOOSH--done--hair, clothes, anything plastic---it's done--it stinks. No, alcohol does not do that. Nothing does that except things that SMOKE, like cigarettes, or a campfire, or burning sage, or burning incense, or burning paper because someone is a pyro, or burning food without ventilation.

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

I don't go to Burger King cause I don't like the way it smells. I'm not out trying to get a law passed to they have to change the smell.

Kizzume · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject:

Burger King at least has a ventilation standard they follow so the ACTUAL smoke doesn't fill the restaurant--it goes out a chimney.

Kizzume · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject:

The thing is--I think EVERYONE should be able to do the thing they enjoy if it's not hurting others. That is why I believe in drug legalization.

Drugs CAN lead to crime. The thing I am the most against in government is putting someone in jail for something they COULD do to other people but haven't. To persecute someone before they've even done anything or were caught doing anything. To treat people like everyone is guilty of something and we just need to find what it is. To get into people's personal lives, their bedroom, their choice in who they want to spend their lives with, try pry into things that are personal. In my opinion, the government has NO right to get involved in any of those things. Once someone has committed a real crime, THAT is when we do something.

Everything that has happened since 9/11--the way people are suspicious of others--the patriot act--all these different things. It's made everyone get involved in everyone else's business, and unless we loosen up on some laws that allow people to live their lives more how they choose as long as they aren't hurting others, the scenario ain't gonna be pretty across the USA. People are getting really worried about cameras everywhere--I'm not so much worried about that, unless they had the opportunity to have cameras in my house--that's where I would draw the line--but anyway--in all these things where the government and corporations are getting more into people's business, the things that people do that are illegal that don't hurt anyone need to be loosened up on.

Most of the reason why there are statistics showing that drug usage is equated with crime is because of the risks people take to transport it and how much it costs. Look how people act when they can't have their cigarettes.

Was it you that said that if cigarettes were taken off the market, you'd still find a way? Would that be right? Would you agree with that? Couldn't someone then equate you with drug users, and then you'd become part of that same statistic that others get put into--you'd be a criminal who is prone to violence and crime? That's what you'd become statistically if that was the case. Would that be right? I sure don't think so, and that's how I feel about the whole drug war. It's not right, it costs too much money, and who the hell is the government to tell people what they can or cannot put into their bodies. Maybe we should make abortion illegal--since the government has the right to tell people what they can and cannot put into their bodies.

Maybe the government can make gay sex illegal, since they'd be able to tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies. They can bring up all sorts of statistics showing how gay sex is unhealthy, so the government should be able to outlaw it because they have the right to tell us what we can do to our bodies.

Suicide is illegal--that one of many things the government tell us what we can and cannot do to our bodies. We don't even have the right to our own life. Is that right? I don't think so. But that's me.

I don't like the idea of being the property of the government because official property must be used in only the authorized manners. No. I'm just not into that idea. I didn't join the military for a reason--being a piece of property is that reason, and that entails a whole lot of things. The more my life becomes like being in the military, the more I wanna leave the country. The whole militaristic aspect to things is why the Palestinians are so upset with their living conditions. It's not an acceptable way to live. Checkpoints everywhere, do you have something illegal? Illegal substances? Illegal downloads? Illegal sex? Illegal books? Illegal [place new phenomenon that media will say is destroying America here]?