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Kizzume Site Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 2832 Location: Tacoma, WA USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: Edwards, health care, and communism |
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I don't know about you, but I find some of Edward's latest pushes for health care to be rather communistic. Not socialistic, but communistic, as well as still including the negative aspects to capitalism.
He believes in a strange system of garnishing wages for health care INSURANCE, not just to pay everyone's health care, but INSURANCE, and that everyone should be REQUIRED to have insurance:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/11/edwards-garnish.html
Then he believes that everyone should REQUIRED to go to the doctor on a regular basis.
Something strange I just found:
When I do a search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&um=1&q=edwards+checkups+mandatory&sa=N&tab=nw
I get a lot of responses--many from news organizations, whether they're right wing or not.
But when I search those same terms in Google News, NO results. I see news articles returned from years ago on Google news, and they can't return those? What's up with that?
Anyway--he seems to be for a type of government that I would not wish to be a citizen under. I'm not going to take medications I don't want to, and I'm not going to pay for the beuocracy of insurance companies in a mandatory sort of way. If I'm required to pay, it should be something ran for a non-profit purpose.
I don't like Edwards at all now.
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chuq

Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Gulf South
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, as an ultra-liberal I do not see his proposal as communistic. It will however be billed as "creeping socialism". Kucinich's plan is closer to socialism than Edwards.
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Kizzume Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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I'm all for socialized medicine. I'm not for what he is proposing. It's a horrible mix.
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debateman

Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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We really need a working blend of public and private to ensure the best of both worlds. When you socialize medicine it makes research less appealing and we you privatize you are unable to ensure basic care to all. A hybrid is the only logical option.
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Kizzume Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it does make research less appealing, but it just doesn't seem like there's a feasible way of doing a hybrid without it screwing over someone. I don't know. I'll really have to think about that.
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chuq

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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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So what you guys are saying is, research is about the cash not about the assistance to mankind.
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Kizzume Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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?? No. It's about both. Without cash, the assistance won't happen.
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chuq

Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Gulf South
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| debateman wrote: | | We really need a working blend of public and private to ensure the best of both worlds. When you socialize medicine it makes research less appealing and we you privatize you are unable to ensure basic care to all. A hybrid is the only logical option. |
That has been the war cry to stop a universal health care system, IMo research is research and I have seen no facts to support this accusation.
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Kizzume Site Admin

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I just realized the idiocy of my last response---you were talking about research and I was talking about assistance. Duh kizzume.
I agree--people do research into those kinds of things to help mankind, not to get a big paycheck. They're not the ones making the bucks as it is--the management is. At least with the government it would be harder to completely screw over the ones doing the research.
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