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debateman
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Kizzume
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I think everything that Hillary Clinton says about anything is simply to get votes. She will keep her promises to the gay community just as good as her husband did.
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treehugger
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debateman, it is my belief that there's only one candidate out there who truly supports the GLBT community. That candidate would be Dennis Kucinich, not Hillary.
Hillary supports civil unions for gay and lesbian couples but not full marriage rights. There is a huge difference, protection-wise, between civil union and civil marriage. Here are a link that details all the differences:
http://www.glad.org/rights/Marriage_v_CU_chart.pdf
In my opinion, Hillary is pandering to the right by endorsing civil unions rather than marriage equality. After all, we already tried the "separate but equal" thing a few decades ago. As I recall, it didn't go over all that well.
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That is correct. Kucinich IS the only one, sad but true.
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debateman
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treehugger
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | That is correct. Kucinich IS the only one, sad but true. |
What about Gravel? |
I believe Gravel supports full marriage rights, too. If so, I stand corrected, debateman. Let me go check to make sure.....
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treehugger
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I just checked - you were right, debateman.  Two candidates support marriage equality: Kucinich and Gravel.
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Kizzume
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That's good to know. The don't ask don't tell thing needs to go.
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Hackfest
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Hillary pandering to the Right is useless, be sure of that.
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Kizzume
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Well, we can see how it's working out for her now. It isn't, and Obama is winning so far. Yeay!
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http://gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19187115&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=569342&rfi=6
Well, apparently, there are still a lot of gay people that believe that Hillary is somehow magically the answer. I don't get it. Didn't we learn after being burned the first time?
| Quote: | Frank, as is his custom, emphasized that the fortunes of the LGBT community and of the Democratic Party are inextricably linked, dismissing Republican Mitt Romney as "synthetic" but warning that John McCain poses the greatest threat.
"We have an important role to play in this election," he told the crowd. "We in the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender community need to work on changing the atmosphere of hate and fear that is sweeping this country. We need to improve the lives of all GLBT people and by working to elect Hillary Clinton for president, we can do it." |
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