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Segep



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree. Smile

About the non-belief in censorship. I do however, wish that the Wii was more graphically powerful, so that it could handle GTA IV. This way, when I beat a hooker with a baseball bat, I can make a downward swing with my arms. Maybe they could even make a bat extension for those who pre-ordered? :-[




and a chainsaw extension
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be cool to play those games with that type of control. I'm wondering when similar controllers will start getting made by other companies for other systems....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS2 is being redesigned with a wand. They say they will sell it for $129. I'm sure that it won't be as good as the Wii though.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting that the study showed that it barely has any effect on girls.....
Honestly, it isn't surprising to me. Women are, by science (I am not being sexist, I learned this in psychology class) less visuals-oriented compared to guys.

You know, I hear a lot that women are less visual than men, but then when we get into stereotypically feminine but visual things, like interior design and fashion, women are supposedly naturally much better than men (unless they're gay). And then when you talk about housework, men supposedly can't even see the dirt while women have supersonic x-ray vision to every speck of dust (seriously, if we talk about housework long enough, someone will say that the reason women do more is because we see dirt that men just don't).

It's funny how many gender stereotypes completely contradict when stacked up all together.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Honestly, it isn't surprising to me. Women are, by science (I am not being sexist, I learned this in psychology class) less visuals-oriented compared to guys.

You know, I hear a lot that women are less visual than men, but then when we get into stereotypically feminine but visual things, like interior design and fashion, women are supposedly naturally much better than men (unless they're gay). And then when you talk about housework, men supposedly can't even see the dirt while women have supersonic x-ray vision to every speck of dust (seriously, if we talk about housework long enough, someone will say that the reason women do more is because we see dirt that men just don't).

It's funny how many gender stereotypes completely contradict when stacked up all together.





That may be but I am not making any sexist remarks about women's role. I am all about equal rights, opportunities, and don't think women should be forced to do all the house work, or cooking etc. (My girlfriend and I divide it up pretty evenly.) I was simply pointing out that in my psychology class, they mapped man's brain, and then woman's brain, with (maybe just a theory?) percentages dedicated to what responds more. According to the curriculum anyway, men's bodies dedicated more of their brains to visuals. Maybe it was a bunch of crap, don't know....

That was in high school. My reasoning for why it must not be sexist may simply be that my teacher, who chose the curriculum, referred to herself as a feminist, so I figured that what she was saying regarding women scientifically probably wasn't a stereotype. But it could very well be. I am definitely of the belief that different people respond to things differently, and that they aren't all the same, and I certainly mean no insult to women by mentioning that study. ???
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That may be but I am not making any sexist remarks about women's role. I am all about equal rights, opportunities, and don't think women should be forced to do all the house work, or cooking etc. (My girlfriend and I divide it up pretty evenly.) I was simply pointing out that in my psychology class, they mapped man's brain, and then woman's brain, with (maybe just a theory?) percentages dedicated to what responds more. According to the curriculum anyway, men's bodies dedicated more of their brains to visuals. Maybe it was a bunch of crap, don't know....

That was in high school. My reasoning for why it must not be sexist may simply be that my teacher, who chose the curriculum, referred to herself as a feminist, so I figured that what she was saying regarding women scientifically probably wasn't a stereotype. But it could very well be. I am definitely of the belief that different people respond to things differently, and that they aren't all the same, and I certainly mean no insult to women by mentioning that study. ???

Oh, I wasn't calling you sexist. I've just seen so many bullshit studies that are to justify stupid stereotypes, so I don't trust any of them anymore. I might be wrong on this one though. But, if it's true, what does it really mean? If we apply to the videogame study and say that the girls were less effected by violent videogames because they're less visual, how does that work? Does that mean that girls see things and don't care? I could understand if being less visual meant women tend to not notice little details on the screen, but being less affected by what they do see? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
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jq



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I get from it is that men attach visual imagery more to their thought process and emotion (and thus violent imagery affects them more, and they are more attracted to pornography, and looks) while women at a higher priority attach physical feelings, smells and sounds more to their emotions, and therefore they are affected less by visual violence.

But I will agree that that is probably a silly way to look at it. I am no expert in this field and also I haven't spent too much time searching for more information on this subject. I can't stick by these statements as I feel very uncertain about them-- I don't feel like any of this talk is really concrete, and I certainly don't want to walk down a road which leads to sexism. Because I definitely do not want to be sexist.
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