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Kizzume
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 Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: The Christian equivalent to Mohammad cartoons? |
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Erotic Jesus sparks art debate in Austria
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080407/lf_nm_life/austria_religion_art_dc
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By Sylvia Westall Mon Apr 7, 3:21 AM ET
VIENNA (Reuters) - They knew it would be risky to exhibit a homoerotic version of Christ's Last Supper, but curators at museum of Vienna's Roman Catholic Cathedral weren't ready for a barrage of angry messages and calls to be shut down.
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The source of the dispute, which Austrian media has dubbed Vienna's version of the Mohammad caricature row, is a retrospective honoring Austria's cherished artist Alfred Hrdlicka, who turned 80 earlier this year.
But not everyone has been wishing Hrdlicka a Happy Birthday. And the Cathedral Museum's director and Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn, the archbishop of Vienna, have both come under fire from some museum visitors and Catholic websites.
The Church hastily removed the main picture, "a homosexual orgy" of the Apostles as Hrdlicka describes it.
But the protest has continued, much to the surprise of the small Cathedral Museum which is nestled down a narrow street in Vienna's historic Gothic quarter.
The museum's director defends both Hrdlicka's work and his decision to host the artist's controversial versions of biblical imagery in a museum tied to the Catholic Church.
"We think Hrdlicka is entitled to represent people in this carnal, drastic way," Bernhard Boehler said in his small museum office, across the street from Vienna's imposing St. Stephan's Cathedral.
He said the museum never intended to offend people but that art should be allowed to provoke a debate.
"I don't see any blasphemy here," he said, gesturing at a Crucifixion picture showing a soldier simultaneously beating Jesus and holding his genitals. "People can imagine what they want to."
Boehler says that picture drew particular criticism from some visitors, along with a sculpture of Jesus on the cross without a face or loincloth that some Christians found offensive.
But the most disputed work was 'Leonardo's Last Supper, restored by Pier Paolo Pasolini' which showed cavorting Apostles sprawling over the dining table and masturbating each other.
Hrdlicka says he represented the men in this way because there are no women in the Da Vinci painting which inspired it. Pasolini was a controversial Italian filmmaker and writer who was murdered in the 1970s.
The exhibition has attracted fierce criticism on religion blogs in Austria, Germany and even in the United States, with bloggers denouncing it with terms such as "blasphemy" and "desecration."
"The exhibition should never have taken place. The Director should apologize to Catholics worldwide for this," an article on conservative Catholic website kreuz.net said.
In the United States, conservative columnist Rod Dreher wrote on his widely read religion blog "I wouldn't have guessed that, given his reputation, a man like (Cardinal) Schoenborn would have stood for this abomination for half a second."
The museum took down the Last Supper piece at Cardinal Schoenborn's request just over a week after the 'Religion, Flesh and Power' exhibition opened, leaving a blank black wall at the entrance to the display.
"This has nothing to do with censorship, rather corresponds with the understood "reverence for the sacred," the Cardinal's spokesman said in a statement. |
I find this interesting. Is this the Christian equivalent to the Mohammad cartoons? It's nowhere near as extreme of a reaction, but it's the closest to it...
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I don't even get offended by things like this. Galatians 6:7: Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
I take this to mean that whatever is done by man will in the end, not go unrewarded, one way or the other.
Matthew 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. If more people didn't worry about things that the Bible says are in God's hands, there wouldn't be uproars like this. But that's the problem. People who claim to be Christians don't even read their Bibles. Well, there's your resident Christian's take on it anyway. 
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You are unfortunately right. Most people who CALL themselves Christians read the bible as much as they go to church and pretend to think about what the pastor is saying, but it ends up being just something people do because they feel they are supposed to, and to me that's not what a religion is supposed to be about, but for SO many it is.
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Don't you mean talking the talk? I've always understood "walking the walk" to mean being the genuine article. Anyway, I've always heard that Grace is God's way of reaching out to man, and religion is man's way of reaching out to God. Which is too bad.
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Hackfest, you are a pretty insightful dude.
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