Two weeks without doing weed.

Kizzume · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject:

If you smoke enough cigarettes in a sitting, it WILL impair judgment. Same with smoking Cloves. They modify people's mindsets. Maybe not by that much, but they still change one's mindset.

I'm not trying to argue that workplaces shouldn't allow their workers to smoke or anything--that would be extremely stupid, but I'm just pissed off at the attitude at the NA meetings. It's just so hypocritical.

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

You would have to try to get high on cigarettes. Like huffing down a pack in an hour.

Kizzume · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject:

Maybe. It's still a drug though, and I don't think cigarettes should be something people should be able to do if they are to consider themselves "drug free". If Narcotics Anonymous is to consider alcohol a drug, they need to consider cigarettes a drug too, especially since it is so much more addictive.

I'm just not going to listen to people brag about being "drug free" while they have to leave every 15 to 30 minutes to smoke a cigarette. It's just too hypocritical.

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Kizzume · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject:

I knew SOMEONE would eventually equate smoking with eating food. Congratulations. Yep, it's as important as food. Roll Eyes

Sugar is in a lot of foods naturally, fruits, berries, vegetables, lots of things--the sugar argument doesn't hold water. Cigarette smoke and tobacco isn't naturally occurring in ANY foods.

The only thing you have a point on is caffeine--and many people at those meetings can't get through a meeting without 3 cups of coffee--those people have a problem too.

This is an issue of smokers thinking they have special rights, that cigarettes are somehow different because, because, well, because. Why shouldn't people be able to sneak in a swig or two of alcohol and still claim that they're drug free? It's not a Narcotic--so why should it be included? If they're to include alcohol, they need to include cigarettes AND caffeine.

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

Kizzume · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:00 am Post subject:

It's not an issue of the way smokers smell--it's the fact that they get to STOP THE WHOLE MEETING 20 minutes into it so EVERYONE at the meeting can go outside to smoke. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. The people who do that should not be able to consider themselves "drug free" or that they even SLIGHTLY have their addiction problem under control. The meetings AREN'T that long--people should be able to get through a whole fucking meeting without a cigarette--if they can't, they have NO RIGHT to consider themselves "in recovery" unless their "clean date" is the very date and time that they stop putting cigarettes in their mouths and lighting them after the smoke break.

Kizzume · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject:

Man---anyone that says that there are no physical anything associated with addiction when it comes to marijuana is full of shit. I've known people that have been able to quit really easily, but they also weren't into a 4-5 times a day habit like I was either--they maybe did it once at night or once every other night.

Without the meetings, these first couple of days have been really rough. The one thing I like about the meetings is just being around a bunch of others who have quit drugs--but that whole cigarette thing just bugs me about the meetings. I'm really glad that the indoor smoking thing is in place here, as I remember many years ago driving past smoke-filled-AA-halls. If they allowed smoking in those buildings, I would NEVER have went to ANY NA meetings--one would have had to PAY ME money to go to them.

I just can't wait until I no longer feel like I need to take Tums (antacid) on a regular basis. I'm really looking forward to it.

Hiedi · Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 87

Kizzume · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:

Thanks. I think it's definitely the right decision--if I was able to do it in a non-addicted manner, where I don't feel like I "need" it, it wouldn't be a negative.

I hope people who read some of these messages in this thread realize that some of my nastiness in wording is from the mood swings I'm struggling with at this time.

Thanks. Smile

redstaterebel · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 128

How many days has it been now?

Segep · Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 219

debateman · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: New Mexico

jq · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 1089

I disagree. I used to smoke cigarettes when I partied, and there were a couple times-- one in particular-- when I felt really wired off of nicotine. We were smoking cloves-- and I smoked a whole pack that night. And I felt very, very euphoric.

Kizzume · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: